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Yoshida

The Ultimate Broski

Posts: 2,339

Birthday: May 8th 1990 (19)

Clan: New Order

Location: England, Portsmouth

Occupation: Vet

Favourite TW-Game: Barbarian Invasion

61

Monday, March 1st 2010, 1:38pm

You try too hard ChaZZZy. The harder you try on the internet the harder you're going to fail. Multiple posts and silly attempts at baiting all in once post tells me you need to calm down. I never meant to hurt your feelings.

When Bush made his first blunders all the intellectuals stood back and gave him some time. Obama has not been in office that long. It is the republicans who are trying to persistantly frustrate his policy, and I'm not just talking about in Congress. I am not an American so I have no weigh-in on American politics or Obama's policy. Ergo I can tell you that Europeans know that republicans in general, appear to care about themselves more so than the well being of the American citizens. See the main opposition to the health care bill. The way you write makes your views seem out of touch with reality and somewhat dispropotionate. It makes you appear to be one of these people. For example:

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I suppose it's hard to not add to the deficit when you're freeing Europe and the world from the Soviet domination that Jimmy Carter was clueless to do anything about. It was amazing how "Reaganomics" propelled us out of the Carter era of recession and stagflation

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Th rallying cry of the modern day liberal.
Were spending too much so let's cut costs by making the federal government even larger... :gj:

More LoL'z... :yes:


outrageous outrageous etc etc.

Further if you look back at your beloved Ronald Reagan again ChaZZZy, Americans didn't blame the incumbent, they blamed the president before him. Do you agree with this? He was trying to push the inflation out of the economy in the first quater of his presidency, wasn't he? Obama is trying to repair the damage ALREADY done by the previous incumbent, not make it worse. So before you rage moar, try to be perhaps a tad less partisan and make some more realistic posts.


62

Tuesday, March 2nd 2010, 2:55am

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I'm blaming those who'd rather argue than have real discussions about America's challenges.


So you're blaming republicans then?
Finger is pointed @ anyone who wont have real dialogue about the issues.

63

Tuesday, March 2nd 2010, 3:15am

You try too hard ChaZZZy. The harder you try on the internet the harder you're going to fail. Multiple posts and silly attempts at baiting all in once post tells me you need to calm down. I never meant to hurt your feelings.

When Bush made his first blunders all the intellectuals stood back and gave him some time. Obama has not been in office that long. It is the republicans who are trying to persistantly frustrate his policy, and I'm not just talking about in Congress. I am not an American so I have no weigh-in on American politics or Obama's policy. Ergo I can tell you that Europeans know that republicans in general, appear to care about themselves more so than the well being of the American citizens. See the main opposition to the health care bill. The way you write makes your views seem out of touch with reality and somewhat dispropotionate. It makes you appear to be one of these people. For example:

Quoted

I suppose it's hard to not add to the deficit when you're freeing Europe and the world from the Soviet domination that Jimmy Carter was clueless to do anything about. It was amazing how "Reaganomics" propelled us out of the Carter era of recession and stagflation

Quoted

Th rallying cry of the modern day liberal.
Were spending too much so let's cut costs by making the federal government even larger... :gj:

More LoL'z... :yes:


outrageous outrageous etc etc.

Further if you look back at your beloved Ronald Reagan again ChaZZZy, Americans didn't blame the incumbent, they blamed the president before him. Do you agree with this? He was trying to push the inflation out of the economy in the first quater of his presidency, wasn't he? Obama is trying to repair the damage ALREADY done by the previous incumbent, not make it worse. So before you rage moar, try to be perhaps a tad less partisan and make some more realistic posts.
Obama's approval ratings here have fallen quite rapidly since elected. from over 65% he's no between 49-51 % approval depending what day of the week it is. Obama's most important critics have been moderates withing his own party. The White House and both leaders of congress have pushed a very far let agenda that seems to have been rejected by this country---see BHO's approval ratings and the recent Election of Rep senator Brown from Massachusetts.

You mention health care. Did you know that over 75% of Americans are happy with their current health care? Did you know that the Senate vote for health care was taken on Christmas eve (virtually no news coverage due to the holiday) and that 2 outrageous "backdoor deals" were made with Nebraska and Louisiana in order to get it passed? Did you know the house barely passed it by a vote of 220-215? Did you know that the Democrat candidate for Senator in Massachusetts had a 19% lead in the polls around Christmas 09? Did you know that she ended up losing by 5% to a candidate who promised to be the 41st vote against the Obama/Pelosi health care bill and break up the Democrat filibuster-proof Senate

The tides have however shifted even more since the Senate's Christmas eve vote and the White House and Nancy Pelosi are now planning on using something called reconciliation to get the bill passed with a mere majority (51-49 vote) in the Senate.

You're posting in nothing but generalities and Obama slogans yoshida.
I know that Europe loves Obama but America is very evenly divided on him as a President and is against his health care bill by 52-44 % accoding to Rasmussen polls.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c…lth_care_reform

SirJai

Owner of Milts sister

Posts: 594

Clan: Round Table Knights

Location: everywhere

Steam ID: jaiflo

Favourite TW-Game: Viking Invasion

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Tuesday, March 2nd 2010, 7:27pm

i will admit i did read maybe the first page of this thread and then i lost interest, we have tons of these post in RTK forums, however one thing i do enjoy about Regan is the good one that Carter pulled before he left office. when Regan was running he promised an increase in military pay, before Carter left he gave the 12 percent raise to the military that Regan was promising and Regan not paying attention gave another 12 percent on top of that as soon as he got into office. of course being military i am glad those guys back then got that 24 percent raise in no time :cyl:



dΣπ: seriously... most peopel in this community are probably fat, sitting behind their comps all day long have no friends, no girl friends, watch porns, post flames on forums and make jokes about gays

naiver

Co-founder

Posts: 4,379

Birthday: Mar 29th 1984 (25)

Clan: DCoV

Location: Poland

Favourite TW-Game: Shogun

65

Tuesday, March 2nd 2010, 8:13pm

Europe nowadays means European Union. European Union is based on Soviet Union ground. The fact that Europe loves Obama only means that he is similar to current European leaders for whom the EU project is a dream come true from their younger hippie days. Nothing to be proud of for Obama, really.

The biggest problem in USA, excluding the problematic democracy system in general, is that the politics is being monopolized by two parties only. Parties which in fact aren't really that different. Average citizen is unable to notice anything on the American politics scene but the Democrats and Republicans.

I think that the US will continue to fall under Obama and he will lose next election miserably proving that he was only a very unlucky episode in American history. The only solution for the economy going down in the US and any other country is to lower taxes dramatically, cut public expenditures and get rid of half of public servants. Let people have more of their money for themselves and they will know better how to spend them. Managing others' money was never and will never be efficient - especially when one doesn't really have direct personal interest in spending them efficiently - and the bureaucrats army certainly does not.

I would like to see Paul being a candidate of the Republicans (that's the only way he could win, I think) but this is never going to happen, unfortunately.
Europe is gay - find out why

AggonyOkeenan

Lieutenant Colonel

Posts: 320

Clan: Aggony

Location: Opotiki, Aotearoa / New Zealand

66

Saturday, March 6th 2010, 3:05am

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Europe nowadays means European Union... The fact that Europe loves Obama


Ummm for the record I'm not sure love is the right word but in any case he is a whole lot more popular than Bush worldwide, not just in Europe. I also don't think its fair to equate the EU with Europe. Public Opinion is a whole lot different from whatever that particular controversial political entity thinks. Naiver I completely agree with you about the two party system but then you turn around and make out like Obama is somehow different and more extreme than the average Democrat/Republican. He has a bipartisan administration and no amount of spin is going to make him any more socialist than say Clinton or Reagan for that matter. As I've said earlier in the thread a comparison with Reagan is not unfair and few, because I know some would, would accuse Reagan of being a socialist. Obama may fuck up in the future but for the moment he hasn't done anything that is really worthy of condemnation especially when compared to the last administration. Admittedly that isn't saying much but as I said before give the guy a chance.

67

Saturday, March 6th 2010, 6:26am

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Europe nowadays means European Union... The fact that Europe loves Obama


Ummm for the record I'm not sure love is the right word but in any case he is a whole lot more popular than Bush worldwide, not just in Europe. I also don't think its fair to equate the EU with Europe. Public Opinion is a whole lot different from whatever that particular controversial political entity thinks. Naiver I completely agree with you about the two party system but then you turn around and make out like Obama is somehow different and more extreme than the average Democrat/Republican. He has a bipartisan administration and no amount of spin is going to make him any more socialist than say Clinton or Reagan for that matter. As I've said earlier in the thread a comparison with Reagan is not unfair and few, because I know some would, would accuse Reagan of being a socialist. Obama may fuck up in the future but for the moment he hasn't done anything that is really worthy of condemnation especially when compared to the last administration. Admittedly that isn't saying much but as I said before give the guy a chance.
2 points O'keenan

1. Obama is much more popular in Europe than he is here. Right now his approval is at 50% and he has wasted the huge amount of political he had when elected, faster than any President I can remember.
2. Obama's administration is anything but bipartisan. His biggest battles have come from the moderates in his own party. The agenda he has has been so far left that despite having a filibuster proof Senate (until recently) and a majority in the house, they haven't been able to pass any meaningful legislation at all, except the Porkulis bill that they are now paying for at the polls.

Comparing Obama to President Reagan or Bill Clinton is funny.
BHO is an absolute novice. :D

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